First week in a solar house: Why do we keep running out of hot water? And other fun questions. [Solartopia #2]

by James Martin II on August 31, 2017

in James' Solartopia Project,Living with solar & batteries

It’s been just over a week since I moved into my solar-powered house in suburbs of the beautiful Newcastle, the largest coal port in the world. (You can almost taste it in the air!)

Newcastle, NSW. Can you spot the coal from space?

I’ve spent most of it huddled indoors hiding from the cold with the ducted AC on, working away on Solar Choice stuff in my 2-year-old son’s south-facing bedroom instead of the more spacious spacious (and sunny) north-facing office space.

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The main reason for this being that the office does not yet have a door and the 2-year-old in question enjoys turning out-of-reach light switches on and off repeatedly throughout the day, enlisting any adult in his line of sight to assist in his switch-related pursuits – ‘Turn that light ON!’ – because his height, at about 50cm, just isn’t there yet.

(Relatedly, we also have a couple of water features (aka ‘fountains’) in the back yard which invariably end up on at various points throughout the day thanks go a general obsession with running water.)

His bedroom, on the other hand, has a door which wedges firmly shut (and is difficult to open). It also has foraging ants for most of the morning, which is an unexpected bonus!

Work companion. (And snack?)

As someone who grew up with the seriously harsh winters of the northeastern United States, 9C should feel like spring to me. But it seems that too many years in balmy NSW has made me weak – or maybe it’s just because all the houses here seem to have been built for the wrong climate?

Snapshot of my hometown of Taunton, Massachusetts in winter.

As a foreigner who moved to Australia nearly a decade ago, I’ve adopted the peculiar custom of showering to stay warm in the winter. The only problem I’m currently having is that by the time I’m ready to have one at night (following a bath for the little guy and one shower by the other adult in the house) there water comes out as a warm trickle which quickly gives way to a brisk snow-fed stream in the space of about 5 minutes.

While I’ve heard that taking regular cold showers would probably make more of a man of me, I have to admit I don’t feel up to the challenge at this point.

I’m trying to work out whether the shortage of hot water is happening because the tank is only 125L or because the heating element is on a controlled circuit that AusGrid never switches on. This is a mystery to be cracked as a matter of urgency.

What does it all mean?

As I focus more and more on my home’s electricity consumption, I think about how all these things interplay with my ‘home energy system’, which includes rooftop solar.

The coal

Having mountains of coal sitting literally less than 10km away from my home doesn’t feel like it could possibly be a good thing, but maybe a lifetime of exposure to particulate matter is one of the reasons that houses are so much more affordable here than in Sydney.

The coal here is slated for export, but the mines from which some of it is all dredged up also supply the Bayswater & Liddel power stations a hundred kilometres inland of here, which are helping to supply my home with electricity during the day.

As much as I’m not a fan of this fact, there’s not much I can do about it without getting a better handle on my electricity usage – and taking advantage of as much of the solar energy produced as possible.

The solar

Since moving in I’ve found paperwork for each of the two separate solar PV systems on the roof. As it turns out, they’ve both got 2.2kW of panel capacity, for a grand total of 4.4kW. One was indeed installed in 2010 using a Samil Solar River inverter and 12x 185W JA Solar modules. The second consists of a GoodWe inverter and 8x 275W of Talesun panels.

Both seem to be in good working order based on what I’ve seen by checking their output on the inverter displays periodically throughout the day. They’re usually producing about the same amount of power; the max that I’ve seen so far is just under 4kW combined.

Which leads to thinking about how blind and helpless I currently feel without any real idea of what the hell is drawing or producing power in my home. I’ve got a Solar Analytics unit sitting on my desk waiting to be installed, and I’m hoping that will go some way towards shedding light on the situation.

The electricity bill

I’ve found out that I’m on time of use (TOU) billing with controlled load 2 for the hot water. If I want to change away from either of these, I’m going to need an electrician out to swap the meter (and it looks like the NSW government has decreed that my next one must be a smart meter).

For the time being I guess I’m sticking with TOU, though. I’ve signed up with Energy Locals to start out with, whose rates are pretty competitive but like all rates these days still a bit scary to look at. I’ll take it as a challenge to try to minimise charges as much as possible in the coming months without turning myself and family into energy ascetics in the process.

I’m especially keen to find out how much electricity it takes to run the fountains out back – not to mention the ducted AC, oil heaters and electric stove. Come on Solar Analytics!

And I can’t wait until battery storage systems are a bit more affordable.

Here’s what I’m up against. That 42c/kWh peak rate gives me chills.

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James Martin II

James Martin II

Communications Manager at Solar Choice
James has been Solar Choice's primary writer & researcher since 2010. He lives in Newcastle in a house with a weird solar system.
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{ 10 comments… read them below or add one }

Gerhard September 4, 2017 at 1:00 pm

Hi James , somewhere you must have a bypass-switch in your installation, which enables you to turn on your hot water heater anytime you want (on peak tariff !). By means of a cycling timer, you could heat your hot water tank (again on peak tariff), after your little one had a bath , for let us say 2 hours , and have your warm shower.You did not mention , how many kw/h you are feeding back into the grid . After tree removal , it should increase a lot, and a solar power divertor may become very economical. I built mine from a kit I have purchased (mk2pvrouter.com.uk ) It helps, to be an electrician. Good luck Gerhard.

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Solar Choice Staff September 13, 2017 at 1:53 pm

Hi Gerhard,

I’ve tried to locate one but have so far been unsuccessful! Fortunately I’ve just received word that the carbonTRACK unit is set to be installed next week and they’ve advised that we’ll also have control over our water heating schedule once that happens. I’ll write about how it goes once I’m there!

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Gerhard September 13, 2017 at 3:45 pm

Hi James, I don’t know , if you have a so called “smart meter”.If you do , they have two red buttons. Press button number 2 for 5 seconds , and your hot water heater should come on (on peak rate). Good luck enjoy your hot shower .Best regards ,Gerhard.

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Solar Choice Staff September 25, 2017 at 4:30 pm

Thanks, Gerhard! I’ll give it a shot next time I’m out at my meter!

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Joachim Staats September 1, 2017 at 4:22 pm

Hi James. I see your TOU tariff rates and note your Daily Supply Charge is a shocker…pun intended. I live in Sydney and I am also on TOU. My rates GST inclusive are 16.43 off peak, 26.91 shoulder, 59.18 peak, 108.0 Daily Supply Charge. What I save on the DSC they get me on the usage tariffs compared to your rates. I am with Energy Australia.

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Solar Choice Staff September 4, 2017 at 9:20 am

Hi Joachim,

For $7 more per year in a house where we do use a decent amount of peak time electricity, I’ll take the higher supply charge over the higher peak rate charge (nearly 20c/kWh more under your rates) thank you very much! Additionally, shoulder rates are lower as well and we’ve got a fair amount of usage during the morning/early afternoon. Have you incorporated pay on time / pay online discounts into those figures? That could make a difference and possibly sway me.

Thanks for your interest.

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Gerhard September 1, 2017 at 3:55 pm

Sorry, I made a mistake:It should read :off peak = 315kwh.

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Gerhard September 1, 2017 at 11:41 am

I think, your HW- tank is too small. You may also consider a solar power divertor.

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Gerhard September 1, 2017 at 3:44 pm

Further more :To reduce your costly day tariff consumption, run your dishwasher and washing machine on off peak ( that is after 12 midnight till about 7 am) if you have that facility.P.S. By doing so myself , I save a lot of money. I have 2kw on the roof , and get a lot of shading in winter . 2 person household , retired . Electric hot water storage 160 l, a bit small. Peak hour consumption for July = 137kwh, peak =315kwh !!.Feed in =0 kwh . I am using all my solar myself and feed it via my solar power divertor into my hot water storage tank. I will have a bit of surplus kwh in summertime .Best regards Gerhard.

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Solar Choice Staff September 4, 2017 at 9:45 am

Hi Gerhard,

In our previous residence (a flat with no controlled load) we had a similarly sized tank and never ran out (probably because it heated continuously). However, having the tank on controlled load means that it only heats when Ausgrid gives it the okay to do so, which means that whatever hot water we have in the tank at 7pm is all we’ve got until it starts heating again sometime after 10pm.

A solar diverter could possibly work, but I have a feeling that we’ll run into the same issue regardless unless we either get a bigger tank or switch the existing tank/element to the general TOU tariff/metering.

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